Re: Why Brunswick Lab certs can't be checked out.

[healthopotamus]

To be honest I do not see what all the hype is over ORAC scores.It's only an in-vitro assy & tells absolutely nothing about in-vivo activity.If I was a consumer I don't think I could care less about the ORAC Lab Cert- what does interest me is the safety & efficacy of the product.Fake ORAC scores- who cares- just show me the results from properly controlled human clinical trials using the product!
In fact a very high ORAC score could be a cause for concern, since it is known that excessive antioxidant intake can cause these high ORAC compounds to become pro-oxidants.

[spartak]

I think that not all antioxidants can act as pro oxidants. There are a few who can act quite often (like naringenin) for reasons not very clearly understood.

I am not sure it is a matter of quantity only. I believe it has to do with the source that these antioxidants are taken also.

I would trust fruits and veggies that give me 10.000 orac per day instead of taking one pill (or more) that gives me the same orac score.

[barryy]

We had our product (Vindure 900) tested by Brunswick Labs, and each tablet came in at 19,638. This is the highest one-per-day rating I know of for any supplement. Our Brunswick report is posted on the site, along with our Supplement Facts label. As a general rule, I assume that any company that does NOT post their legally required product label is hiding something.

In addition to an extraordinarily high antioxidant capacity, Resveratrol and Quercetin have been shown to activate the SIRT genes, and up-regulate sirtuins in the bloodstream, potentially increasing our healthy years. Take a look at the antioxidant page at http://www.vinomis.com

[Maqui Berry Guy]

This is my first post. I own a company that consolidates maqui berry from the Chilean Patagonia regions and converts it to freeze dried powder. We opted for the Brunswick Labs "Total ORAC" certification which tests against the top 5 free radicals. I have made it available on my website. I hope to pas along everything we find out about the maqui berry as well as learn from others here.

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* I have some great stories thus far about the nutraceutical industry as a whole. I will share them over time when appropriate. Good to be here.

[alfonthemove]

There is One Sure Way to know if Brunswick Labs has indeed done the certification. If the product has the Brunswick Logo, With ORAC Certified on the label, then you know it is True. One reason many companies toute their ORAC from Brunswick and do not have the label is they only do an initial test for score, but do not do for each batch they bring to market. I have found one such product that has their logo certified ORAC on the label on a new product called Viva Elite. From 19 superfood sources, this is the Premium product on the market today. This company Does have Brunswick do each batch. The ORAC is 13,633 per ounce. One serving is 2.5 ounces, making the total ORAC per serving 34,082.5

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My contact info on the site.

[Oriveda]

To the last people who posted here:

You are confusing the readers in your statements. This website is giving a list of ORAC values p/100 grams.

You are giving ORAC values for your products based on 'per tablet' or 'per daily serving' - so it is not possible to compare your statements to the official published list. Like the last poster with the viva elite product: a little calculation shows that the actual ORAC level p/100grams would be 1.41 times 34,082.5 = 48,056 which is not remarkable.

The worst deceiving act I came across so far was the site mychaga.com - they are boasting about an ORACvalue of around 52,000 p/liter (!!!!) which actually means it is indeed higher than raw coriander leaves p/100 grams, but in fact pretty low.

Be critical!!

[mrsureshisha]

A wide variety of foods has been tested using this method, with certain spices, berries and legumes rated highly in extensive tables once published by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), but these were withdrawn in 2012 as biologically invalid,[3] as no physiological proof in vivo exists that the free-radical theory is valid. Consequently, the ORAC method, derived only in in vitro experiments, cannot be interpreted as relevant to human diets or biology.

[mrsureshisha]

A wide variety of foodI am usingas been tested using this method, with certain spices, berries and legumes rated highly in extensive tables once published by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), but these were withdrawn in 2012 as biologically invalid,[3] as no physiological proof in vivo exists that the free-radical theory is valid. Consequently, the ORAC method, derived only in in vitro experiments, cannot be interpreted as relevant to human diets or biology.-Source: Wikipedia. I am using an Indian product called Maxxora (http://www.maxxora.com). Could anyone please enlighten me about the latest development about ORAC method, according to Wikipedia information. Shall I follow orac or stop it?

[maxD]

(12-21-2009 04:33 PM)barryy Wrote:  We had our product (Vindure 900) tested by Brunswick Labs, and each tablet came in at 19,638. This is the highest one-per-day rating I know of for any supplement. Our Brunswick report is posted on the site, along with our Supplement Facts label. As a general rule, I assume that any company that does NOT post their legally required product label is hiding something.

In addition to an extraordinarily high antioxidant capacity, Resveratrol and Quercetin have been shown to activate the SIRT genes, and up-regulate sirtuins in the bloodstream, potentially increasing our healthy years. Take a look at the antioxidant page at http://www.vinomis.com

Nice.

But what you leave out is that the bio-availability of resveratol is zero. It is a nice example of a hyped product that gives amazing results in vitro, but cannot be absorbed at all by humans.

So all this anti-oxidant power is useless.